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Season 4

Season 4, Episode 15, Part 1: Story Time with Author, W. Michael Farmer: “Killer of Witches, The Life and Times of Yellow Boy, Mescalero Apache”

It’s STORY TIME, y’all! This lengthy 3-part series with Author, W. Michael Farmer is perfect to tune into while you’re taking a road trip or working in the yard or just listening when you can.

“You are stronger than we. We have fought you so long as we had rifles and powder, but your arms are better than ours. Give us like weapons and turn us loose, we will fight you again; but we are worn-out; we have no more heart; we have no provisions, no means to live; your troops are everywhere; our springs and waterholes are either occupied or overlooked by your young men. You have driven us from our last and best stronghold, and we have no more heart. Do with as may seem good to you, but do not forget we are men and braves.” These were the words of Mescalero Chief, Cadete to General Carlton in 1863.

In Season 3, episode 8, my guest, W. Michael Farmer and I talked through the life and times of the great warrior, Geronimo. And over the next 3 episodes, Michael and I will walk through his 3-part book series based on the life of an Apache named Yellow Boy, starting with, “Killer of Witches, The Life and Times of Yellow Boy, Mescalero Apache”. Because Michael has completed extensive research on the Apache, you’ll also learn a great deal about the Mescalero Apache way of life.

A disclaimer…these books and episodes do contain realistic depictions of historic actions and events that do include violence, so listener discretion is advised.

This is a story that’s considered truth told along with fiction in a time when the Apache way of life was being threatened by the overtaking of Americans who were migrating west, and the terrors on the dark side in this life, witches and other evil spirits in the flesh, that still had to be destroyed to enter the next life unscathed.

Check out “Killer of Witches” and other W. Michael Farmer books here:

Website: https://wmichaelfarmer.com/books/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wmichael.farmer

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Season 4, Episode 14: “Mother & Daughter, Victoria (Choctaw) & Aaliyah (Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas) & The Wig That Launched Native Comedy”

Since I launched Native ChocTalk, my goal was and still is “preservation” – the preservation of our ancestral stories, history, traditions and culture. I encourage every age group to do so!

Join me in supporting young Native Comedian and Photographer, Aaliyah (Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas) and her mamma (also a Photographer), Victoria (Choctaw). Young Aaliyah shares not only about her endeavors in comedy, but she also recorded with me to preserve information about her tribe and the memories of her grandpa.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:

  • Aaliyah’s beloved grandpa (her “ahwo”), the late Chief Herbert Glenn Johnson who inspired her comedy
  • Her grandpa’s love of watermelon, bingo and gospel music (and how he used to call her chickenhawk)
  • The Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas, the swan dance, and the basket dance
  • Aaliyah’s world of homeschooling (which I connected with since I was also homeschooled)
  • How a wig resulted in Aaliyah’s aliases/characters
  • Aaliyah’s list of favorite comedians, such The 1491s
  • Victoria and Aaliyah’s powwow princess stories
  • Victoria’s stories of her ancestors

Check out Victoria and Aaliya here:

A sample of Aaliya’s comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZDcy7CUx40

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Season 4, Episode 13, Pt 2: “Touched by Greatness, from Indian Territory to the Ivy League”: Carolee Maxwell, Chickasaw & Choctaw

I hope you’ll enjoy part 2 of 2 of my interview with Carolee Maxwell!

She held the paperwork in her hand, a tissue in the other. This information sat in a folder that hadn’t been opened since 1917. Its contents would unlock the answers to a past long gone, but not forgotten. And it would forever change the way she looked at the life of her grandpa – her beloved Papa.

Meet Carolee Maxwell, Chickasaw & Choctaw Author of “Touched by Greatness, from Indian Territory to the Ivy League”, the true story of her Papa, Charles Watson McGilberry.

Charles was unknowingly part of an “experiment” in which Native American boys were the recipients of a plan to determine if they could be educated and groomed for the Ivy Leagues. Did Charles complete his Ivy League prep school education at Mercersburg Academy? And did he make it to the Ivy League?

In these episodes, you’ll also hear about:

  • The love story of Charles and Vivian
  • Charles’ friendship with John Phillips Souza
  • Charles’ journey from Jones Academy to Chilocco Indian School to Mercersburg & beyond
  • The backstory of the PGA (Professional Golfers Association) and Macy’s Dept Store
  • An ironic twist of fate in which one of my ancestors was the reason for Charles’ father to be imprisoned
  • Carolee’s beloved late husband, S. Wayne Maxwell with whom she co-authored the book

And…see if you can spot our bloopers. Hint: It has to do with the crows.

You’ll enjoy this heartwarming and historical book, “Touched by Greatness”. Find it at:

Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/35x2fd3t

Barnes & Noble: https://tinyurl.com/47w8vdex

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Season 4, Episode 13, Pt 1: “Touched by Greatness, from Indian Territory to the Ivy League”: Carolee Maxwell, Chickasaw & Choctaw

PART 1 of 2

She held the paperwork in her hand, a tissue in the other. The information had sat in a folder, unopened since 1917. Its contents would unlock the answers to a past long gone, but not forgotten. And it would forever change the way she looked at the life of her grandpa – her beloved Papa.

Meet Carolee Maxwell, Chickasaw & Choctaw Author of “Touched by Greatness, from Indian Territory to the Ivy League”, the true story of her Papa, Charles Watson McGilberry.

Charles was unknowingly part of an “experiment” in which Native American boys were the recipients of a plan to determine if they could be educated and groomed for the Ivy Leagues. Did Charles complete his Ivy League prep school education at Mercersburg Academy? And did he make it to the Ivy League?

In these episodes, you’ll also hear about:

  • The love story of Charles and Vivian
  • Charles’ friendship with John Phillips Souza
  • Charles’ journey from Jones Academy to Chilocco Indian School to Mercersburg & beyond
  • The backstory of the PGA (Professional Golfers Association) and Macy’s Dept Store
  • An ironic twist of fate in which one of my ancestors was the reason for Charles’ father to be imprisoned
  • Carolee’s beloved late husband, S. Wayne Maxwell with whom she co-authored the book

And…see if you can spot our bloopers. Hint: It has to do with the crows.

You’ll enjoy this heartwarming and historical book, “Touched by Greatness”. Find it at:

Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/35x2fd3t

Barnes & Noble: https://tinyurl.com/47w8vdex

Native ChocTalk Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/nativechoctalkpodcast

All Podcast Episodes: https://nativechoctalk.com/podcasts/

Season 4, Episode 12: “Steven Oklatubbee (Choctaw) on Simpson Tubby: A Voice for God and His Choctaw People”

Ovid Vickers, the late English instructor from Decatur, Mississippi, wrote, “When a list of influential Choctaw people is compiled, Simpson Tubby…preacher, teacher, and storyteller, will without a question be among them.”

Steven Oklatubbee, the fifth great grandson of the great Choctaw Chief, Mushulatubbee, spoke to us in Season 2 about his ancestral stories. And now he’s here to share the fascinating story about another of his ancestors, Simpson Tubby, based on a paper he wrote titled, “Simpson Tubby: A Voice for God and His Choctaw People.”

We’ll also cover topics such as:

  • Thoughts around being mixed blood Native
  • The effects of Jim Crow laws and how those played into issuing blood quantum
  • The treatment of Choctaws who stayed behind in Mississippi
  • Some sad news about one of Steven’s goats (but also some good news ahead)

By the way, Steven also has his own podcast called Anumpa Nan Anoli – check it out on Spotify, y’all! https://open.spotify.com/show/2eWrrTS2KDhdDJbdSJW9aX

Yakoke, Steven for joining me and God bless!

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